That noted, my betting-bux is on 'something else' being 'the root cause' behind this puzzling crash. This proposed AD was prompted by a report of cracks found in the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer attachment structure. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. Perhaps, as a poster mentioned earlier, the trim could be stuck ("runaway") at a nose down attitude for the dive portion of this accident. I need to wait for Dan (you? 1 LSU's big win over Butler. Certified flight instructors who own Plane Simple Flight School learned from Palermo. 4 LSU women's basketball Watch the 2 Your Health report for Friday, March 3, 2023. lol) to give me the answer. I have been thinking the same, it's the only thing that makes any sense. The NTSB also declared that the plane's crash was the result of "extensive internal failure of the inboard left engine" during . It's their job to travel to accident sites to determine the cause. Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:57 am to Lithium. It flew great with a two-blade prop. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. Honorary Pallbearers are William Don Clements, William Edward Shaddock, Jr., Stephen Gorham Shaddock, William Edward Shaddock II MD, Brian Ray Jones and William Craig Jones. Louisianaauthoritieshad identified the pilot earlier as Richard Don Clements and his instructor as Rock Palermo. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. Killed in the crash. "It is a great loss for the department and the entire community," officials said at a press conference, "It didn't matter the time of day or night who was in trouble, if it was in another parish and they needed our plane he would jump in and take over.". A celebration of Dons life will be held on Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:00 PM at First United Methodist Church located at 812 Kirkman Street, Lake Charles, LA 70601. Clements, 61, was flying alone from Alberta, Canada, to California on Feb. 22, 2015. NTSB, do your job. Palermo was an attorney for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff's Office, they said. The recorded ADS-B data revealed that the airplane departed again at 1713 and proceeded south toward the Gulf coast. Sign up for newsletters emailed to your inbox. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Looks like they circled a couple times and tried to head back to the airport. Smoke in the cockpit that turned into a wiring fire behind the panel is a possibility not yet mentioned that might fit the circumstances. The Tigers beat out No. Probable causes are generally given in final reports, which can take a year or more. Copyright 2022 KPLC. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Speaking with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. "HACKBERRY, La. The FAA is proposing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products.DATES:The FAA must receive comments on this proposed AD by June 29, 2020. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. The 1972 Puerto Rico DC-7 crash was an aviation accident that occurred on December 31, 1972, in Carolina, Puerto Rico. Sept. 14, 2014 10:37 PM PT. On Wednesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancusos voice broke as he told reporters that one victim, Rock Palermo, was the departments pilot, attorney and friend. The engine was unable to rotate through due to the impact damage. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. In the hours after Nepal's deadliest plane crash for 30 years, a video went viral in India - it showed one of the victims, Sonu Jaiswal, livestreaming from the plane just seconds before the crash. But all the groundspeed points at the end are low. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. 60K views, 69 likes, 95 loves, 363 comments, 164 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from KPLC 7 News: Calcasieu Sheriff holds news conference after deadly plane crash near Hackberry. The grieving families need the analysis to be done on that blade. JohnsontoldKPLC-TV that the second occupant, Richard Don Clements, was believed to be a student of Palermos. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. I'd expect the model to be MUCH more sensitive to 'prop-disc-effects' than the man-carrying versionwhich is not to suggest they don't exist for a full-sized C-182. Another owner of the plane flew with Clements and Palermo the day before the accident and didnt report anything of concern. The plane then submerged, he told. Unlikely, but it is a possibility. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. or a practice incipient spin, that got the spin stopped , but the nose did not come up, due to forward c of g? He and the department announced the death of Rock Palermo who was employed by the sheriff's office. Leaving the blade there and risking it getting picked up by the next random visitor to the wreck site would be a disservice to solving the mystery. The families have been notified, they report. More people need to call out their dereliction of duty. That person told investigators he was in the back seat during a training flight on Feb. 1, and the man had done well on flight maneuvers. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy. He was happiest in the clouds. Records show that the day's first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, LA. Flight Track. The initial impact crater extended about 15 ft deep and contained a majority of the airplane, to include the engine, propeller, fuselage, and empennage. That's all!!!! The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Thrown blade and resulting immediate out of balance could have ripped an engine mount, canted the engine in some way creating horrendous aerodynamics and an unrecoverable dive? Authorities are investigating after a jet from Luke Air Force Base crashed near Buckeye north of the White Tank Mountains on Thursday morning, according to Sean Clements, a . The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. Don Clements Death - Obituary | Accident : Dead-Death has learned the passing of Don Clements who has died in a plane crash that occurred in Hackberry.. Because of this, some have theorized that a propeller failure is to blame for this accident.Losing a blade in flight, with the 3-blade, constant speed propeller rotating at 2400-2500 rpm would likely cause a vibration so violent, it could easily render the pilots unconscious and/or damage the airframe/elevator so severely that the airplane would not be controllable.If only we could go through the maintenance records and see when the constant speed propeller was last serviced or overhauled.I'm sure the NTSB will figure it out, but we'll just have to wait. Stony Plain pilot Michael Clements has died following a plane crash in Spokane, Washington, reports a . Figure 1 shows the end of the recorded flight track and the accident location. Think about the circumstances that would fit with acceptance of not finding the missing blade.Examination of the recovered prop hub must have clearly indicated that the blade was thrown during flight, not broken out during impact. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. To reach the newsroom or report a typo/correction, click HERE. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. He was a lifetime member of the Louisiana Coastal Conservation Association (CCA), which is a non-profit organization dedicated to the conservation of Louisianas marine resources. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. Investigators said there was so much damage it limited how much they could investigate. Palermo was also a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson. NEW ORLEANS (AP) The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Date & Time: February 2, 2021, 17:44 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Instructional. Also, the known aeronautical capabilities of one of the pilots, a CFI, who was well respected at the sheriff's office as their Chief Pilot do not point to pilot competence issues. He was a partner in the firm of Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson in Lake Charles, and he was a founding member of the Judge Albert Tate Inn of Court. Forget previous post where I stated "slow airspeed". At the time of his death, Don was a partner in the Global Asset Management Group (Raymond James) in Lake Charles, LA. Baton Rouge man arrested in Ascension horse theft; one adult, two minors Southern University AgCenter's Livestock Show celebrates its 80th anniversary, St. John's big inning hands Southeastern second straight loss, Coach Kim Mulkey talks LSU's record-tying season. It won't be there when someone does go back to fetch it. Again scratching head. Run-away trim that led to??? Provided by Lake Charles KPLC Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in a plane crash near Hackberry, on Tuesday, Feb. 2, 2021. Something dramatic clearly went wrong here. You are misinterpreting your RC observations.Aircraft would be falling out of the sly every day if throttling back blanked the elevator.The man actually is off on a crazy idea, but nonsense on youtube always finds devoted followers. My sincere condolences to the families. I propose that they had been doing training for an hour or so in a practice area, were returning to the airport traveling in a straight line for many miles, when they got within eyesight of the airport and were thinking the fun was almost over, for whatever reason, they attempted a slow roll to the left, they had forward CG (close to, at, or beyond limits is not known, but probably somewhere forward), so when they went over the top and were inverted, the nose started to fall to the ground. Don't get taken in by the constant criticism of NTSB and FAA efforts. Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". The autopsies of the victims reported the cause of death for both was multiple injuries sustained from the crash. This plane in a local hangar belonged to Palermo. A man who was the pilot and attorney for a southwest Louisiana sheriffs office and a second person were killed when their small plane crashed in a neighboring parish, apparently during a flying lesson. You have permission to edit this article. Kilimanjaro. Straight line from where? Single engine, one of the most reliable planes on the planet. According to the airplane broker, on the day of the accident the private pilot called to report that he had just completed a 1-hour flight in the accident airplane to satisfy the insurance policy requirements. Pallbearers are Todd Ammons, Kirk Clements, Bob Harp, Joseph Pousson, Kevin Robbins, and Henry Riquelmy. I missed the nose down attitude observed by witnesses. Kerbow was an instructor for Clements, who was a newly licensed pilot. An avid SCUBA diver and instructor, Rock first met Kim while teaching her SCUBA diving class. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. He could not have been prouder of his children. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso spoke at a press conference on Wednesday morning. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. Visitation services will be held on Friday, February 5, 2021, between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. with a Scripture Service to be held at 6:30 p.m. at Trinity Baptist Church, 1800 Country Club Rd., Lake Charles. The Cessna 182 was destroyed when it crashed straight down onto an island northeast of Hackberry in Cameron Parish and sank 15 feet (4.6 meters) down into the soft soil, the NTSB preliminary report said. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. His 25 pound mass half scale model Spacewalker is just six percent of half the mass of the 800 lb full scale Spacewalker. I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. The men say Palermo brought them on board the CPSO Aviation Division and add, they will miss him tremendously. HACKBERRY, La. Little did they know but nine (9) years later, in 2002, Nancy, Don and their two children, Will and Mary Kathryn would become devoted members of First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. But, if it were to happen that fast, it would be likely that they would have smelled exhaust in time to do something about it. The CPSO will be working with family, supporting them. I agree. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Copyright 2021 KPLC. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. That person told investigators he was in the back seat during a training flight on Feb. 1, and the man had done well on flight maneuvers. In a typical configuration, it has 178 seats . It would be interesting to see the state of the elevator trim. The descent then increased rapidly. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered. No obvious reason so far for not pulling out from the dive. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . They're not "investigating" anything. Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. In the last 12 seconds of recorded data, the airplane made a right turn and had descended about 3,200 ft. The passenger plane with 190 people on board crashed at the Calicut airport in the southern state of Kerala, killing 21 people. Detailed metalurgical examination of the two blades and hub for known indicators of overspeed may be able to differentiate loss of blade in normal flight from loss by overspeed. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Saturday AM Forecast: Today's weather will be near perfect. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Hard to think of anything that makes sense here. For example, look up "Free energy device" on youtube and notice how many people believe in perpetual motion. The plane has crashed near Hackberry in Cameron Parish on Tuesday night. If they weren't stuck with tunnel vision grip on full aft yoke, they could have pushed forward and added power to get the tail plane flying again and regained control. Many parts and pieces were left behind at the crash site, including the third blade!! The last of ADS-B data from Flight Aware only shows the start of the incident. Authorities have identified the victims as Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. Hackberry, LA (KPLC) - The National Transportation Safety Board has released the report on its investigation of a deadly plane crash in Hackberry. Philip Clements, a 62-year-old Chester Township man, was killed in the crash and was the lone passenger on the plane. An ATP-rated CFI teaching another pilot, good weather, an aircraft known to be fairly reliable and having docile characteristics. Later 182's do not.https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/02/2020-24046/airworthiness-directives-textron-aviation-inc-airplanes. The engine sustained significant impact damage and was saturated with mud. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. BATON ROUGE - The Tigers win the Podium Challenge in the River Center with a score of 197.700. Rock was a respected attorney and member of the Louisiana Bar. There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. The airplane wing never stalled but remained at a high angle of attack just above stall. Flight instructor, student pilot identified as victims in fatal plane crash near Hackberry. It is a risk that we accept as we enjoy the thrill of flying. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. Fatal flight: full fuel and two heavy guys in the front. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. woman accused of using aunts debit card for 136 DoorDash orders held on preset $18 million bond, Juvenile injured after homemade pipe bomb detonated, police say. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Palermo and Clements were aboard a plane like this Cessna 182 when they were killed. with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard . This is certainly one of the most mysterious 182 crashes in recent history. Visitation will resume on Saturday February 6, 2021 at Trinity Baptist Church from 10:00 a.m. until 11:30 AM, with a Mass of Christian Burial to be observed at 12 noon on Saturday, February 6, 2021, at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, 935 Bilbo Street, Lake Charles, Johnson Funeral Home, Lake Charles has been entrusted with arrangements. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. Don was honored in 2015 as a Duke by the Krewe of Mystique for the many contributions he made to the community. Nothing in the report suggests "airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon. He was a member of the Civil Air Patrol, the United States Air Force Auxiliary, and held the rank of Colonel. She died in the 1998 crash of Swissair Flight 111 with her husband, Jonathan Mann, while traveling to a World Health Organization meeting in Geneva. Rocks the best pilot I ever met, said Thompson. Dive overspeed certainly could toss the blade. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. Investigating accidents and making cogent, helpful recommendations is the NTSB's job. Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021 . An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. Don't count on him providing a true photo of that blade, dug out of the sand bar.The grieving families will suffer his "leaving it" as cruelty. The plane crashed near an industrial area a few miles to the south of the Little Rock airport. "I'm sorry. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. a practice stall , with a forward C of G ? It seems odd it's damn near nose down like that unless it was human input which, would hate to think that. Hackberry, LA (KPLC) - The National Transportation Safety Board has released the report on its investigation of a deadly plane crash in Hackberry. The following individuals will serve as pallbearers: Jay Bice, Kevin Derousselle, John Emerson, Ellis Hassien, Tony Mancuso, Rob Parrish, Poncho Seaford, and Matt Vezinot. Extremely unlikely that one pilot would decide to kill himself with another pilot in the plane. At least 68 people were killed Sunday when an aircraft went down near the city of Pokhara in central Nepal, a government official said, the country's deadliest plane crash in more than 30 years. Dockets reflect additional in-depth efforts made between initial examination and completion of the investigations.The nonsensical "flat disc effect" story is on par with the critic's untrue claim about finding the missing blade from this 182 or the untrue claim that the pilot of N3RB murdered a co-pilot. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. Good point, thanks. LSU pitcher Paul Skenes LSU women's basketball beats Georgia 83-66 in SEC Tournament matchup. Then there is the possibility of an elevator control malfunction, causing a nose down attitude. A comment was made about the NTSB being derelict in not actually visiting the accident site. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. NTSB should already know if that was evident.Still a head scratcher. So airspeed likely high and elevator authority should have been present. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said.
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