2022 LawnMowerForum.com. Im now looking to replace that mower with another last mower. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? Thanks Paul, thats great that you drove this and would buy one. The seat is easy to move with just two knobs under the seat. The joystick does seem nice, but I have no idea which one might be better for ride comfort, durability, etc. In this case, though the Kawasaki is a residential engine. John Deere probably had the most mixed reviews of all, either people loved them or hated them. (The neighbors have a hill that is, if anything, a bit steeper than mine. Steering is better and you wont have to worry about a minor bump jerking you around. The Toro is the highest-rated. Toro TimeCutter MX Mulch Kit. They are not designed to cleanly cut tall overgrowth. I went and looked at it last Saturday and got to drive it around the parking lot. Not so much focused on comfort. I am considering moving on from my 30 Dixon ZTR w/ the B/S 16.5 Intek engine. I guess I am just asking if you have any knowledge of this mower that you can share. Nevertheless it was good convo back and forth. 24.5 HP TimeCutter IronForged Deck Zero Turn Riding Mower with MyRIDE Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. I have it professionally serviced last July and informed them of the issue. Ask him about any specials he has coming up because a lot of dealers will have a spring special (i.e. The fully articulated deck hugs all the dips and bumps in your yards and does a great job of striping. The Cub is $200 less, and has a (better) 3-year unlimited hours warranty vs 2 years/120 hours for the Deere. I just want something that will give me the best cut on slopes. Hi Charlie, Is the dealer getting some in or will your local Ariens Dealer order the mower? 2. Any insight on the Toro V-twin vs the Kohler V-twin 7000 series? How do these compare to the new Ariens? The type of grass will also make a huge difference. He is very hard on the mower (over 150 trees to mow around) and its held up very well. (and may be included). John deere Z540M with the Kawasaki engine 48 Comes down to maybe the paint color. The Toro fab deck cuts better and the Toro will also pull more but overall the Cub Cadet is one of my top choices for a 42-inch ZTR. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? If you have inexperienced operators a fabricated deck will hold up better to them banging it against foundations and trees. The only other thing I can think of is the deck shell is warped. I was able to cut some grass at an ariens dealer with the Ikon x 52. Warren, RI, Hi Mike, I knew you would like it! It is developing a stellar reputation. Heres how operation works: The Toro TimeCutter employs the patented Toros Smart Speed Control System, and this allows the operator to choose a trim speed thats best for the area about to be mowed. It is a yard in the country, not a city lawn. 3. I sat on the Cub and found my right knee may hit the lap-bar when using the deck-lift peddle even though the bars adjust. The Toro mower includes many pro elements like a canister-style air filter, a commercial drop pin, and a rubber chute. He started making mowers in the early 90s and always had the idea of keeping the mowers priced so anyone could afford them even if it meant selling fewer than anyone else. Dump Carts There are cheap, good carts and expensive, bad carts. Thanks in advance! The APEX is one of those mowers that it a solid step up from the MZ61. I own a summer camp with 3 large sport fields. I also noticed that once you like their facebook page their advertising will start to show up in your regular news feed and a lot of those ads talk about sales. Its worth the $5100 but the question is do you need that much mower? I want to try a ZTR mainly because I feel like Im wrestling the steering wheel constantly and I have to back up and pull forward too much at the corners of the yard. Both are a lot more agile so you can go around obstacles faster. Looking for my first zero turn. It cuts well and is built like a tank. And Im perfectly happy to buy the ZT HD instead; I just hadnt really had Gravely on my radar before I talked with them. A 22 HP/725cc Kohler 7000 series V-twin OHV engine delivers high-performance power and exceptionally smooth, quiet operation. Thanks for your super helpful work. Mow high, mow in the afternoon and side discharge until the spring growth has subsided. Owners never complain about grass build up under the deck. It was a great lawn tractor when it was a Craftsman but it is not the right tractor for you from Costco. You are right that the dealer can often make the difference, and the one I got mine from is awesome! The Grasshopper is unique no one else still produces that style of mower. Hi Paul! It gives you a much better experience if you ever have an issue with your mowers engine. 3. I like them both and cant decide which would be best for me. That said. John Deere Z530M. In retrospect, Toro TimeCutter has the luxury of being able to change cutting speed, although both of the machines have a good cut quality. 46 . My budge is around the $6000 mark, The Cub Cadet is the clear winner right now but we need to give the EGO a chance this year to prove itself. Pay, particular attention to the uncrating and setting up section of the manual. The Boulevard doesnt have the step and rail. Both mowers are good residential machines but I will have to say the Bobcat is a little more heavy-duty and it also will ride over rougher lawns better. 5. Hello Paul. If the last what could the cause be? No one else has this type of control because Country Clipper has the patent but its by far the best zero-turn steering on the market. The best cut/mulching and the best ride is the Toro TimeCutter with MyRide suspension. I like the build quality of this mower, the cut quality, and I can easily recommend it for 2-3 acres. The deck is a lot stronger than the stamped deck and will handle banging against tree roots, etc. There are a lot of parts to install and youll need a helper to get all the bolts installed and tightened. Which One Is Best For You?. I visited the nearest Jonsered dealer today, and he said that Husqvarna has bought up several brand names and hasnt figured out how to deploy them in the marketplace. I had a Toro time cutter Z5035 model 74376 that lasted 10 years. You get a great mower at an honest price. I am looking at the Deere Z335E and Z375R. Hi Paul, Husqvarna Lawn Garden Tractors | 11 New Improved Models! As I look at prices for what I can get for a 50 with Toro and Ariens it looks like I can get either at around $3100 which is $400 more than what 42 V-Twin costs. Youve done an excellent job of researching and then going through all the features that you like and dislike. Thank you for being frank. In other words, it will last you years. Mowers in the price range are built tough enough to handle a sapling or 2-inch stump without damage but again thats not what they are designed to do. Hi Adam, When the Husqvarna MZ came out 10 years ago there were very few ZTRs in the high residential/entry level pro category but today there are many more that have stronger frames, better cutting decks and ride better. Stepping up from there is the Ariens / Gravely APEX / ZT-HD 52. Its worth a $1000 more because the frame, deck, and transmissions are all more heavy-duty than the Ultima Series and the Toro Timecutter. The mower is constructed this way so the operator can easily access the engine and cutting deck. Have used it less than 6 times since. If you have a problem they take care of it or get you to a local dealer for the repairs. Thoughts on a JD or Cuba Cadet? The Toro is an efficient, easy-to-operate mower thats fitted with most of the components the Cub utilizes. Hi Larry, There is nothing wrong with the Toro or ExMark except the sales didnt meet Toros expectations. Paul, I purchased a 2018 Gravely ZTHD52 last spring. In all honestly, there are so many different brands, it can be a challenge to keep track of them all. lol I was originally thinking the Toro 75742 or cubcadet ULTIMA ZT1-42 solely based on customer reviews and price but now Im wondering if I should spend the extra to get the Toro 75755 due to the MyRide. A tractor mower on the other hand has the ability to collect grass, not a feature traditionally associated with a Zero turn. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. Quite an interesting way to store your thoughts when you get occupied with other important duties! There is a low, medium, and high trim speed. Greg, That is a tough call to make. Hi Shane, mulching blades by themselves dont do much. He doesnt expect Jonsered riding mowers to be around for very long. https://www.bradleymowers.com/products/bradley-52-stand-on-compact-mower-briggs-commercial-turf?taxon_id=5. The XT2 should give you 10 years of service if you do the normal maintenance on it and dont let teenagers try and wreck it. Hi Jim, Instead of waiting for a sale you can always ask the dealer to waive the setup and/or delivery fees. But, you would notice that because one blade would cut higher than the other. I firmly believe you get what you pay for. Hi James, the MyRide will give you the best possible ride. . Do you have a preference between those 2? Ive been looking at Walker and some higher end Hustler and have up to $15000 New Zealand dollars budget ($9500 USD). The Model R is very easy to work on. If your decision is down to the Exmark and Walker go to walker.com and request a demo. Have your readers commented on it one way or the other? I have both brands and I use them all the time. Here is the Gravely sales page: Gravely Mow The Distance Sale. The best part is the price, the Toro is quite a bit cheaper than the Cub. Lowes in particular has a habit of just taking the mower out of the crate and NOT doing any of the adjustments for example moving the seat on the Ariens mowers. Love the tire size for stability, traction, and to ease the bumps. If you are fine with buying from the box store and then finding a dealer if you have issues to save $200 then go that way. In any case, heres a link to a video about the Turning Point Center shelter for the elderly homeless in Houston, TX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRAJIH0veOM so you can get an idea about the organization and how it runs. I prefer the 50 inch model because the deck sticks out the side farther which makes it easier to trim around stuff. Also, Id consider the CC RZT42S. The deciding factor was the protection of Costcos Risk-Free 100% Satisfaction Guarantee which guarantees Refunds for products with a limited useful life expectancy, sold with a product-specific limited warranty will be prorated. For long-time, large-volume customers, Costco might generously replace the mower. Like Walker, Country Clipper has been around for over 30 years and they specialize in rural or farm properties. In terms of the engine, although Cub Cadet's engine displacement is higher, the 24.5 hp power makes Toro's zero turn mower stand out. The decks are manufactured to incorporate aerodynamic force for a much more intentional distribution of clippings; to avoid clumping, stragglers, trailing, and improve the overall cutting quality of the deck. Zero-turn mowers are ideal because they ensure no patches of lawn go uncut, and theyre also pretty easy to get the hang of. These have the better tranny with the ZT-3100 but I feel like I read on your site that for towing a leaf vac maybe even more would be required? 3. Do you need it for mowing 2.5-3 acres of lawn every week? Oddly enough I was just at the Home Depot and looking at both and wound up talking to a commercial lawn care guy. They both have the best cut. So let me go quickly through some of the options youve mentioned. 3. (Clean and change the blades every 3-6 weeks), If you want to see everything involved with owning a robotic mower here is the operators manual for the 435 https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAen/HUSO2020_NAen__1141841-95.pdf, Installation manual: https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt__1140537-38.pdf. Thought kubota z421kw was nice. 679 cc Fuel Injected (EFI) V-Twin Engine Dual Hydro Gas ZeroTurn Riding Mower with Steering Wheel Control, https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAen/HUSO2020_NAen__1141841-95.pdf, https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt__1140537-38.pdf, Toro Timecutter HD 48 inch at the Home Depot, Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension, Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension System 50 in. (Since I review mowers I like to keep a fairly new unit here) $3500, 200 hours, very well maintained. I was leaning toward the Gravely/Ariens just trying to suss this as thoroughly as I can. The rep who comes out will go over the mower with you, show you how to drive it, and let you use it on your yard to see if it is a good fit., Hi Paul, They will have the latest sales info and you can ask them. Yes they are expensive, but then I dont have the maintenance and cost to run. Thanks in advance! I easily say that this mower is thru and thru a Walker and will probably be the last mower you ever buy. Who Makes The Best Lawn Tractor or Zero Turn For You? Scag has also been around for a long time and the larger mowers are very popular with landscape contractors. Its a good mower for your 3 acres and will last a long time. Both will hold up on hilly terrain. Hi Ryan, Id stay with the Deere. I will have to think hard about the collection aspect I am seeking. For the reason the cutting blades maintaining high rotational speed is applauded, there is a corresponding feature consisting of large wing-like spray blocking fenders to keep the grass from dowsing its landscaper with clippings. Seems to be the biggest difference is the forged deck? Paul YouTube. Also some of the areas gets fairly dusty if we go a couple of weeks without rain. Plus I just really like it over anything else under $3000. Hi Dick, The Toro TimeCutter and Cub Cadet XT1 will give you about the same life expectancy as your old Toro. Ive also read about the Ariens mowers you recommend. I was able to test drive the 2016. The Frames are different so the Deere looks lighter because it uses smaller tubing. Im not sure what Sears is up to so Im not recommending their mowers until I know where the company is headed. house/pond/etc) the cost for them vs. DIY justifies a new machine for the garage. Use this dealer locator page to find a dealer in your area (Country Clipper dealers). This will be my first zero turn. The Toro and Cub Cadet use different engines and transmissions, so these mowers hardly perform identically. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). Consumers using both have found Toro's decks more durable than Cub Cadets'. It will easily last you 10 years or more. Get fast shipping and low prices from Power Mower Sales! 2. In addition, ANY ZTR under 48 inches will have traction issues like sliding even on dry ground. You could prefer the ease of entry or speed options that comes with the Toro TimeCutter, or rather choose to ride those hills with a Cub Cadet zt1 without worrying about the engine failing you; both brands come to the fight with very impressive features. The wider deck will allow you to trim around obstacles easier than the 42 inch model below. Its the 48 inch Bradley Stand-On. Thanks again. It was the kubota z421kw (54/60 inch) with the kawasaki engines. Heres what I like about the Bradley (link below): ZT3400 drives / 23 rear tires. I do my best to not mow wet grass and usually remove no more than 1 inche in a mow. With the mulch kit installed on the 48-inch deck its really only 6 inches wider than the 42-inch and will go through a 54-inch gate. The Toro TimeCutter comes in an array of deck width sizes such as 42, 50, 52, 54, and 60 inches respectively. Do not which one cannot be rebuilt or can for that matter. That Cub did have the same exact engine. All of these machines seem to be comparable to each other but of course theyre a lot of money and I definitely want to make the right choice. I just dont think I need a heavy duty mower, but maybe the heavier Cub would last longer. Guys who blow them up try to mow hills over 15 degrees, overheat them by not cleaning the fins once in a while, dont change the oil and air cleaner regularly. The Cub Cadet ZTX4 is also a great mower. Anyone considering buying the new Gravely zero turns need to reconsider it. factory warranty !!!! All the other lap bar ZTRS will struggle if they can mow it at all. Freshly cut lawns are not only visually appealing, as they feel and smell great too. 42-46 inch Fabricated Deck 1/2 to 1 1/2 Acres, 42-46 inch Heavy-Duty 10 ga Fabricated Decks, You can find a lot more information on the 42-46 inch ZTRs here: 2022 The Thirteen Best 42-46 Inch Zero Turn Mowers, 48-52 inch Stamped Deck Up to 2.5 Acres, 48-52 inch Fabricated Deck Up To 3 Acres. It will last for you if you do two things. TodaysMower.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, and we get a commission on purchases made through our links to Amazon. Yard is about 1 acre. It cuts great. The deck independently rides over bumps, dips, and follows the contour of your lawn exactly. KutKwick ZTRs can handle 45-degree slopes (start at $30,000). 2. powerful 35hp v-twin kawasaki engine !!! Hi Trent, Id buy a Bradley in a heartbeat if I needed another mower. The Deere probably looks a little better to me too, but my mower doesnt need to be pretty, as long as its not ugly and it mows well and has adequate service support if needed. I also use the mulcher in the fall for leaves. They will also mow that taller pasture with the mulch plate installed if you lift the deck up as high as it can go. The back third is one long, flat, but fairly steep hillside, with a uniform slope at around 14-15 degrees, with one small section or dip that reaches 20 degrees. Hello Paul. Hi Carrie, Ive also always been partial to the 60-inch deck. Any ideas? CR members with digital access can read on for ratings and reviews of the 12 best lawn tractors, zero-turn mowers, and rear-engine riders on the market right now. This is Walkers first-ever residential mower. These start around $2500 and the good Cub Cadet and Husqvarna models are around $3200. This is how I make money to keep this website up and running. I am considering a 60 inch deck Ariens Ikon XD 23 HP. Does anyone have experience with these two? I currently cut with a CC 54 lawn tractor. In other words, you will only get about 2-4 years out of it. They arevented inside the spout so the fuel pours quickly yet seals tightly when not in use. Hi Kirk, if you want the best cut possible get the Deere. For the few extra dollars buy the Toro or Ariens. The Cub Cadet ZT2 is a decent mower I just like the Gravely better. If you only have 10-degree slopes and you are not planning on pulling a lot of heavier loads with the ZTR then Id stay with the Ariens IKON XD or the Gravely ZT X. Unfortunately, he dropped me as a customer after the second year, saying that the hillside was tearing up the transmission on his (relatively old) mower. About Paul Sikkema My initial thought on an attached bagger is that it wont hold the volume that the DR will (which has a 27 or 43 cu ft capacity) and you will be constantly emptying it. The IKON XL and the Toro MyRide are much better choices. Headlights are the kinds of features that you either get on commercial zero turns or you get installed, but the Cub Cadet has them fixed for you at the get-go! The B&S Vanguard engine option is about $450 more than the B&S Commercial Turf. The cheap ones are also flimsy and the spouts break after the first year. Other fuels stabilizers to check out: Fuel Stabilizers. As stated before, Husqvarna tractors are designed to tackle heavy-duty mowing . From what Im reading here the Ariens is better built but is it worth the few hundred dollars? (see it here at the Home Depot) It will have the weight to give you great traction along the drainage ditch. I really, really like the Bradley Standers. What is your experience with robotic mowers? Hi Travis, The armrests are worth every penny! First off I would like to thank you for taking the time to answer all of these questions! Thanks for all the great info here. I recommend the Cub Cadet Z-FORCE S 48 as your cheapest option. Putting all 5 mowers (Cub Cadet ProZ, Gravely Prostance Stand On, Walker T25i, Walker B23i and the Hustler X-One) to the test, we will see who. While this feature makes operation a little more demanding, it helps ensure a smooth mowing process. 1st time for ZTM. Always turn uphill. It has really helped me through the process of shopping and gaining confidence with my decision. But then again, I might like the lighter Deere better for my lawn. The did replace a pulley but the problem is persisting. One forum post claimed to have tested and found that parts are interchangeable. Any advice you can give on each for a residential lawn? The 3100 trannys are nice but the mower is Kubotas entry model. I also bought my snow blower through your recommendation. I also believe all Exmarks now have foam filled front tires so punctures are not an issue anymore. The best riding lawn mowers in 2023. Here are my questions: if i am willing to spend between 6-7k.. what would you say is the best mower i can get (residential/commercial). I believe youre right though on the 50 in for both. Hi Blake, My first choice is the 42 inch Toro Timecutter. I am more confident with the purchase now. I know the Pro Z might be a little much for a residential mower but Im willing to pay $1400 more for the upgraded mower, providing the Kohler Motor is reliable and the transmission with charge pumps will add longer life to transmissions. With the deck removed grab the ends of a blade and wiggle the blade side to side (up and down in relation to the deck) If it wiggles more than 1/16 of an inch tighten the spindle bolts. Both have heavy-duty fabricated decks and Kohler/Kawasaki engines. Im looking at the Ariens IKON XD 52 vs John Deer z375r. Its worth the extra $400 over the Toro has better transmissions than the Toro and cuts as well as the Ariens. Zero-Turn Stand On. Matt loves everything DIY. The Gravely has the best deck for cutting longer grass and it will handle the hills. It will last many, many years. So many choices! Hi Jeff, The Ariens IKON XD and the Gravely ZT X are the same mower. Many features define a potential zero-turn, but the most important and commonly considered traits are power, durability, convenience, effectiveness, and a way to look dapper as possible whilst hanging out on the grass under the scorching sun. I purposely did not expand on my Toro dealer experience. Would I be perfectly happy with the Toro for my very average small lawn? A Walker mower has a lot less stress on the transmission than the mid-mount ZTRs. Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the stronger ZT 2800 transmissions. The difference between the Gravely ZT X 52 and the Ariens IKON XD is where its sold. Greetings Paul Property: 4.5 mowable acres relatively flat, improved grassy land with new home build on pacific coastal high bluff in northern Cal. Thoughts. Is an electric mower better than a gas-powered mower?

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